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Thy and I did Camp Muir on Sunday in challenging conditions.  Visibility was poor with fairly persistent wind and snow.  We got to about 9,200 and had to turn around since we were warned about going on unless we were prepared to spend the night at Muir, and we weren’t.  We were on target for about 5 hours to get to Muir at a steady but not adventurous pace.  Probably a good call since the weather started closing in just as we were getting off the mountain. 

Since there was some new snow we did most of it in snow shoes, up and down.  Snow was too soft for crampons to make a difference and my gators kept filling up over the top of my boots trying to posthole.  I was curious about that since RMI doesn’t list snow shoes on the equipment list, from my recollection.  In reading other posts, it sounds like snow pants with interior ankle gators underneath the main gators are the only way to go if you want to keep snow out of your boots confidently.

I have the Mountain Hardwear South Col backpack.  I noticed that my gear was wet inside at the end of the day, especially the bottom when the pack had been sitting on the ground.  I couldn’t find a reference to “waterproof” in the specs so I am going to line the inside of the pack with a garbage compactor bag next time.  We did this on Baker and it worked great.

I dumped my old boots after getting soaked on St Helens.  My new Zamberlans were the bomb and I used the heat moldable “Sole” insoles rather than Superfeet this time.  They were great, I’m now a convert from Superfeet.  I am planning to rent the premium mountaineering boots from RMI rather than buying.  Although I was thinking about taking regular boots for the lower part of the mountain and the mountaineering boots for the summit, since there is snow all the way to Muir, I think I’m going to save the weight and just take the mountaineering boots all the way.

My high quality ski gloves were soaked through, so I need to rethink the glove situation now that I solved my feet issue.

I tried my hydration pack without insulation, and the drinking tube started to freeze.  So I am going to need to insulate it even for the lower section, and/or have bottle backups.

Even in 25-30MPH winds, I only had on a hard shell with a windstopper soft shell and a wicking layer and was plenty warm while moving – but cooled down super fast when stopped.

We past some groups on the way down who had summited the night before, even with bad weather.  One group only had 4 reach the top out of 16 though.

We are thinking about doing Camp Muir again the weekend of 6/11, probably spending the night in Ashford beforehand to get an early start without getting up at butt o’clock.

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Boots: Rent vs. Buy

We have had at least one post already about boots, but these were only in reference to which brand you should buy.  I on the other hand am still on the fence as to whether or not I am going to rent or purchase.

Last week I talked with a representative from RMI about renting gear in particular the boots.  Everyone has a slightly different opinion regarding this subject so I wanted to give everyone my breakdown

Buying:

Pros

  • They are yours
  • You have time to break them in to the shape of your foot
  • You have a much larger variety to choose from
  • Available whenever you need them

Cons

  • Expensive
  • Might be limited in use (depends on how much additional mountaineering you do)
  • You will have to spend the time (possible blisters) to break them in
  • Oh did I mention they can be expensive 🙂

Renting

Pros

  • Much more affordable
  • Most boots should be broken in
  • Limited time spent shopping is needed
  • If this is the only climb you ever do, you are not heavily invested

Cons

  • They have been used by someone else (just hope they had good hygiene)
  • New rental boots may not be broken in yet
  • Minimal selection
  • Risk of getting boots that could inhibit you from participating in a successful climb

So now what are my options?

Adam had a wonderful post on some boot purchases he would highly recommend to fellow climbers.  Definitely recommend checking it out.

If you are interesting renting, RMI offers two types of boots.

Plastic Boots – Scarpa Inverno ~$39 (four days)

Base model plastic boot
Used by a lot of people so they will be broke in
Not for everyone
Heavy
Guide Recommended

Leather Boots – Mammut Mamook ~$58

New this year (probably wont be broke in quite yet)
Light weight
Warm
Guide Recommended

If you do decide to do rentals I would highly recommend looking into a pair of good shoe inserts.  This will provide an added level of custom fit and greatly enhance your comfort.

Remember these are just my opinions.  You can make the decision for yourself

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One thing you’ve probably guessed by this point is that getting a pair of boots that not only perform but FIT well is critical to your overall enjoyment of the climb (and for everyone else, who will have to put up with the complaining!). If “meat grinders” at all come close to describing how your boots feel, you just might want to consider getting some new ones. Scratch that – for the sake of the rest of us on the climb, please do help the economy and make that purchase!

Now don’t just buy the most expensive or highly rated boots out there. When shopping around at your favorite outdoor retailer, really try on the boots and get a feel for how they fit your particular foot. What works for one person may not work for another. Does your heel slip? Get ready for blisters! Do your toes hit the front of the boots? There go the toenails! When trying out the boots, mimic how you will wear them on the actual climb. For example, I replace the footbeds of my boots with “green” Superfeet (http://www.superfeet.com/activity/hiking.aspx), and ALWAYS wear light liner socks under my hiking socks.

Since gearing up for alpine climbing can easily cost a mortgage payment (or two if you’re a total gear nerd), the last thing you want to do is get them out on the trail and find out they work a little differently than when you tried them on at the store and around your house. And most stores won’t do returns or exchanges once they get a little dirty or scuffed up from actual use. So here’s a little secret: Go to the gym, put on those shiny new clodhoppers, set the treadmill on an incline, and put in a few virtual miles. Do this a few times until you feel confident in how the boots fit. If they aren’t quite right, adjustments to your sock/lacing combinations may do the trick, but the good news is that since they still should be in shiny new shape, you should be able to return them to the store no questions asked. CAUTION! This is not recommended if you are also trying to meet people at the gym and fashion is a concern, but then again, you may really impress someone by how practical and smart you are. Good luck!

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Backpacks for Rainier

Question submitted by Bob Dhaens

Q: You mentioned the type of pack you thought was great. Was it the Mountain Hardwear pack? If so, did you get it online or did you get it at REI or some other store?

A: Hey Bob thanks for the question!  Here’s what RMI recommends for the climb:

BACKPACK: A 70+ liter pack is the recommended size for this climb.  A separate summit pack is not needed.

Mountain Hardwear South Col Backpack

First Ascent Big Tahoma Backpack

I ended up scoring the MH version for Christmas and so far I am very pleased with its performance.  It sounds like Ed Viesturs worked with Mountain Hardwear to design this version so I’m pretty sure it’s gonna take care of everything you need.  Just to make sure it fits as expected you may want to go try on the M & L sizes so you can gauge the difference.  Last time I checked REI didn’t have one in their store so you may want to give them a call first.  If not you could always just order one online from Whittaker Mountaineering and exchange it if something seems off. 

Here’s a little blurb from the product details page:

Mountain Hardwears big mountain pack. Trek to basecamp, and then strip down for the summit. Hip belt, frame sheet and lid are removable, and the pack can be compressed to the body for stable, quick runs. Attachment points accommodate a full load of tools. “Ed Viesturs wanted a single pack to do the whole guide thing on Everest. It had to be light and strong and durable. (Check. 100% Spectra front panel, 100d Cordura sides and top.) It had to be big and simple. (Check. Fixed suspension, molded backpanel, 75 liters plus overload capacity.) It had to be versatile enough to take to the summit and clean camps on the way down. (Check. The removable framesheet, top pocket and hipbelt knock the weight down close to two pounds; the versatile compression strap system let you lash fat sleeping pads and tents on the outside, but keep loose webbing to a minimum.) Ed’s pleased. ‘Nuf said.”

Obviously there are plenty of other packs that fit the bill so don’t feel obligated to go with one of these options.  With that being said, I’m curious what other brands of packs you guys are considering.  Please feel free to add your 2 cents in the comments section.

-Hans

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A few people have asked what type of crampon to consider for climbing Rainier.  I’ve stumbled across the following video that breaks down some of the key differences.

Guides pick for Rainier is the Grivel G10 or G12

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Mountaineering Boots

Contributed by Adam Barley: 

A couple of you have asked me about boots for the Rainier climb, so here is a link a store here in town that has some good options.  Pro Mountain sports (north of the U-District) is a small store, but is the climbing geek version of REI that sells really nice and lightweight stuff:  http://www.promountainsports.com/boots.shtml.  Of course, REI has plenty to choose from as well.

So far in my mountaineering trips over the years I’ve been making due with some old school leather, non-Gore-tex beasts, so it is definitely possible to get by with cheaper/more traditional boots if you want.  Mine are pretty worn out by now and my repair strategy involving generous Shoe Goo isn’t really cutting it any more.   For new ones I am in favor of the lighter duty variety that may not be suitable for super cold and extended climbs like in Nepal, but are great and versatile for three-season climbs in the Cascades, and are easy on the feet for backpacking and approach hiking as well as for glacier travel.

I’d just go to one of the stores and tell them what you want the boots for and how much you are willing to spend, and they should be able to steer you in the right direction.  Make sure to try one a few different ones to feel out what you like & don’t like about the fit. 

Some options I am looking at are:

– La Sportiva’s Trango S Evo.  A few climbing buddies of mine have these and swear by them. 

– La Sportiva’s Trango ALP GTX.  This is the newer version of the S Evo, and besides being a different color, have a little more durable leather material so they don’t wear quite so fast. 

– Scarpa’s Charmoz GTX.  Within my climbing group, whomever doesn’t have the S Evo has the Charmoz and seem happy with them.

These are all about $300.  The only place to get the Trango ALP in the area is Pro Mountain Sports, and REI has the other two.  Tell your families that these would make great Christmas gifts….

-Adam

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Trekking Poles

Hans gave me a heads up a while back that there was a great set of trekking poles for sale at SteepandCheap.com, a site for deals on outdoor clothing and equipment.  I purchased the Black Diamond Trail Shock Trekking Poles, at a great price of $60.  I used them for the first time last week, and I can’t say how excited I am about them now.  I didn’t realize how much of a difference poles would make.  I plan to use them on all of my training hikes, and definitely on our climb to Camp Muir.

– Joel

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RMI Gear List

For those of you that have inquired, here is the recommended gear list direct from RMI:

http://www.rmiguides.com/rainier/?id=3#equipment

 How many items on this list are you guys looking to buy vs. rent?

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